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Caught in a Lie is the title of the fourth episode from season 3 of Way of the Master featuring Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron.

Episode walkthrough

Introduction

(00:00 - 03:08) The scene takes place with two LAPD officers catching two armed robbers (Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron), takes them to the station and prison, until finally giving them red inmate clothes and escorting them to their cell. Then rolls the Way of the Master Intro.

(03:33 - 04:23) Ray says every year, thousands of people are arrested and booked under suspicion of breaking civil law. Kirk says "we say 'innocent until proven guilty' until they are brought into court and answer how they plea: innocent or guilty." Ray says many guilty people plea innocent because they do not want to go to jail, "they lie about their crime because they hope to escape the law." Kirk says "Lying is usually a defense mechanism we used to avoid getting in trouble with the law, our boss, or other authority figures." Kirk also notes that sometimes it is easy to tell when a person is lying, sometimes it is hard. Ray then presentes a series of hidden video-tapping, leaving a wallet on the ground, and tapping the people finding it and keeping it, to see if they will lie where they found it.

For this episode, lets review what Ray and Kirk think "lying" really means. This is taken from Chapter 13 of their book School of Biblical Evangelism:

"The dictionary defines a lie as a false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood; something intended to deceive or give a wrong impression. People often claim that they have told only a “white lie.” But there is no difference between a white lie, a half-truth, a fib, or an exaggeration. All are lies in the sight of God. How many murders does one have to commit to be a murderer? Just one. In the same way, if they have told even one lie, no matter what color or size, that makes them a liar. The Ninth Commandment requires the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. God is a God of truth and His Law demands absolute honesty from the heart."

Spy-Cam Evangelism

(04:24 - 10:05) A single video recording of Ray Comfort putting on spy-glasses (with a hidden camera), placing a wallet in the middle of busy Broadwalk in Venice Beach, Los Angeles. A guy named Bill (and his friend Jason) pickes up the wallet, skateboards away, Ray catches up to him and interviews him. Bill learns what just happened and agrees to chat. Ray asked Bill if he felt guilty about lying to him [Ray] that he found the wallet. Bill says "kind of" to which Ray says his conscience spoke to him and then asked if God ever came to mind when they lied? Neither of them answer, but Bill says he prays and goes to church so he thinks he is okay. Next, Ray takes them down the are you a good person? routine. When Ray finds Bill guilty he says "all liars will have their place in the lake of Fire: (Revelations), but says jesus died for our sins "so God can legally dismiss you of your case", so in order to escape Hell we must repent of our sins.

This question should be "Are you a good Jew?" since the Ten Commandments were given by God to the Jews - the Chosen People. These laws were not instructed for the Canaanites and such, only the Jews. Imagine if the same question "are you a good person" was asked in the same manner, but rather than using the Ten Commandments as a criteria, instead use the 5 Pillars of Islam or the Eightfold Path of Buddhism. Of course the first objection would be that a religious bias is set up to examine a person if they follow the provided guidelines to impress said faith ("are you a good Muslim?" or "are you a good Buddhist?") However, none of these are actually attempting to discover if you really are an actual good person in the sense of the word. Rather, they are asking if you are worthy for the reward offered by said religion (in a sort of in-or-out fashion), not are you good in general.

Lecture

(10:06 - 13:22) Scene switches to the Interrogation Room. Ray and Kirk enter with the officer, there is a man already in the room with a Lie Detector. Ray says it actually measures a person's pysiological reactions, which catches a change in a person's body when they are under a lot of stress. Kirk lists all the different things they look for, but notes that the change in behavior is always open to the interpretation of the examiner. Ray asks why would a person be under pressure in such a situation... because they know they are not speaking the truth. Ray says if the conscience experiences guilt it will produce a physical reaction. Kirk says the police always begin with asking a arrested person "Have you ever lied? Have you ever stolen?" Kirks says most people would answer yes, and the physical signs are mapped on the polyograph on the Lie Detector. Ray says then the BIG questions come, and they check to see if there is a difference in the physical reaction with the previous questions. Kirk says if the examiner finds out that the suspect lied, they tell them they failed the test, and the usual reaction is that the suspected person will admit they lied. Kirk then says that the Lie Detector gives the suspect the conditions of being caught in a lie, hopes he cracks and confesses his crimes. Ray says some criminals have tried to out-smart or trick the machine, but "they are almost always counter-productive."

It should be noted that Lie Detector's are faulty machines and CAN be fooled by anyone who knows how to prep for a test.

Viewers should take the time to watch Penn and Teller's Bullshit: Lie Detectors (http://tinyurl.com/cohdgun) In the program, Penn and Teller interview Doug Williams, certified police polygraph examiner, who argues the polygraph is NOT a lie detector and can be fooled with a simple muscle reflex with proper timing.

Ray Comfort says that a person being strapped into a Lie Detector would experience a change in body reactions because "they know they are not telling the truth." This is not the case at all. The person could simply be nervous, they could be enraged that they are being subjected to such a test, a person could be embarrassed that they are being asked certain questions...simply put, a change in body reactions does not mean you are lying.

(13:24 - 21:39) Ray leaves the interrogation room. Kirk stays with the Examiner and his machine. Kirk says he bets he can trick the machine, to which the Examiner says most criminals come in here with the same mindset but never succeed. Ray goes into another room to watch whats happening on TV. The Examiner hooks up Kirk after he makes him write down 7 female names and one of them has to be his wife's real name. The Examiner says if he finds out Kirk is lying, the consequence is that he must pass out their Gospel Tracts to everyone on his next plane trip. They do a test where the Examiner catches Kirk lying on the machine who his wife's name was (the real name, if at all used, was blurred and peeped out)

Oh right, leave the childhood actor in the interrogation room to fool the machine.

Given the history of these two, it is reasonable to assume this whole thing was staged or deliberately set up to look real to appeal to the audience.

The section ends with a Bible verse Romans 3:10,12,19 and then James 2:10

Ray says he just wants the person's conscience to give a clear read on how guilty they are and how they need a Savior.

Ray Comfort's "conscience test" is based on a false pretense: the Ten Commandments are actual moral sources that should be tested against the human conscience.

The same thing can be done with the 8 Paths of Buddhism or the 5 Pillars of Islam. Finding a person guilty of either religious criteria does not mean a thing.

Only the secular laws are laws to be concerned about, and it does not take religion to form any sense or code of morality.

Reality Check

(21:43 - 25:14) Introduce officer David Grantham says the conscience is an active courtroom that works both in the spiritual and secular world. He, Ray and Kirk walk through several signs of a lying suspect in their verbal language and body language.

If you ignore all the babbling about Christianity, this segment is the most educational piece of the show that gives several signs if someone is lying. These can be very useful if you confront a street preacher.

  • Did s/he repeat the question
  • Did s/he cover their mouth when speaking
  • Did they back away slightly
  • Did s/he give a weird cough or slight chuckle before answering

(25:15 - 27:15) Ray tells a story of the first time he came to America and preached for the first time on a soapbox at Venice Beach, Los Angeles. When a police officer appraoched him and told him to stop, Ray says he ignored him. "I was elevated above him, and his badge was out of my sight, and paid him no more attention as I would give any ordinary citizen."

Bear in mind, this is after Ray already knew the man was a police officer, and yet he decided to ignore the officer.

Kirk says "as Christians, we are representatives of the living god, yet if we do not point to the Law of god as the core of our authority, we wont get due respect from the world. Jesus point to the Law of God as his authority, he said 'I did not come to destroy the Law but to fulfill it.' He said "not one jod or one tittle by no means pass from the Law.' He also said 'this is the law of the land and the prophets, have you not read in the law?'"


Ray then says, " WE KNOW abortion is wrong, adultery is wrong, pornography is wrong. We can shout our moral convictions from the highest households, but the world will not listen. This is because it exalts itself above OUR moral claims, becuse no one has said to them to open their hearts to what we have to say. Why did I suddenly take notice in the man who was telling me to stop? Because it was his badge that caused me to take notice. The badge said if I did not heed his words, there will be coming judgment. If you and I tell the world that it is wrong to kill, to steal, to commit adultery without reference to god's law and future punishment is to fire an unloaded cannon. It's meaningless."

One on One

(27:22 - 31:42)

Kirk is interviewing a woman in the 3rd Street Promenade, Santa Monica, CA. Kirk asks her why she thinks it is hard for some christians to share their faith. She answers that they are not sure what they have to say is politically correct or that some people are too cool to be a person of faith. Kirk asks her if she thinks it is important for Christians to share their faith. She answers yes because they can help people "bring positivity in their lives." kirk asks what she thinks happens when a person dies without becoming a christian. She says she does not know but hopes that God is merciful and notes their positive lives.

She later on says she is good and will go to heaven, then Kirk says he used to be an atheist most of his life, and then when he became a christian he learned that god is "perfect" "holy" and "good and righteous"  and then took a look at himself and realized how unrightoeus he was. Then Kirk takes her down the are you a good person? routine. She still says she thinks she will go to Heaven because after she became a Christian, she now "knows better" and does her best, she does not steal or take gods name in vain, etc. after becoming a christian. Kirk then replies with an anology of a person who raped a woman, who is later brought to a judge. The rapist then says says "I don't do that anymore, I now do my best to be good. Should the judge let him go?" She answers no.


(31:43 - 31:57) Cut scene back to Kirk and Ray in the cell room. Kirk says "consider the cross. The cross is only there because god always stands by his law. He's serious about sin. If eternal law didn't exist, then there would be no need for jesus to be sacrifiiced on the cross."


(31:58 - 33:05) CUT SCENE back to the interview. Kirk says all liars have their place in the lake of fire and then goes on to talk about jesus (who lived a sinless life) and salvation. Kirk says to trust in jesus and repent of your sins.


(33:06 - 33:23) CUT SCENE to Ray. Ray says, "Always remember, there have been two reliable witnesses to the crimes of this world. First  one is god,  he has witnessed everything ever done inthought, word, or deed. And the second reliable witness is the conscience. So make sure you use the law to stir the conscience so it will do its work.


(33:24 - 34:14) CUT back to the interview. Kirk asks what happens to people who die who have not come to god. Shee says they don't go to heaven. Kirk asks where doo they go? She says "to Hell." Kirk asks her if it scares her, shee says yes. Kirk says "unless we really percieve that that is where we are going to go, if a just judge of the universe hates sin as much as he does, then we will never appreciat the cross and all that was given to you through jesus' death. Does that make sense?" She says "it makes perfect sense." Kirk says that is his thrust to talk to people, because he does not want them to go to hell.


(34:15 - ) Cut back o Ray and irk in the cell room. Ray says "when the police question asuspect, they are wanting a confession. Sometimes it is because hey want to see a criminal come clean, sometimes it is because they (quite rightly) want throw the book at them." Kirk says "but God wants a confession from us so that w can be forgiven, and he can freel forgive us for our crimes becase the book as already thrown at jesus 2,000 years ago. The printout of our transgressions was dealt with at the cross. Listen to Colossians 2:14 '...having wiped out th handwiting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.' Now god can withdraw our dath sentence. Our case can be dismissed. This is te meaning of John 3:16 'for god so loved the world he gave hisonly begotten son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have ever lasting life.'"


Ray says "the Bible also says that mercy rejoices over judgment. In other words, for tose who repent and trust in the savior, will rather get mercy than justice. He is not willing to let any perish. And that is the gospel truth." Then the cop opens the cell door and releases them.


The Way of the Master
Season One Episodes:

1. The Firefighter   2. The Mirror of the Ten Commandments   3. The Motive of the Sinner   4. The Summary of Salvation   5. Practice What You Preach   6. Idolatry—The Darling Sin of Humanity   7. The Beauty of a Broken Spirit—Atheism   8. WDJD?   9. Blasphemy, Sabbath, Parents   10. Murder   11. Adultery   12. Theft   13. Lie and Covet

Season Two Episodes:

1. God's Wonderful Plan   2. Conscience   3. Alcatraz, Al Capone, Alcohol   4. True and False Conversion   5. When Things Go Wrong   6. The Satanic Influence   7. How to Witness to Someone Who's Homosexual/Gay   8. Evolution   9. How to Witness to a Loved One   10. The Fear of God   11. Ice Breakers—Gospel Tracts   12. The Greatest Gamble  13. How to Get on Fire for God

Season Three Episodes:

1. Battle for the Lost   2. Where Has the Passion Gone?   3. Joe Average   4. Caught in a Lie   5. The Divine Butler   6. Why Christianity?   7. Jehovah's Witness   8. Mormonism   9. Are You A Genius?   10. Last Words of the Rich and Famous   11. How to Find God's Will   12. What Scares You   13. Hollywood Be Thy Name

Cast
Ray Comfort — Kirk Cameron

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